Anything that gets into the public arena gets trashed, but in a way it makes me happy to read all, the responses, because it tells me that there are still passionate people out there who are looking. Sinaiticus has 9000 passages differently than Textus Receptus. These . Both the Codex and the KJV Greek manuscripts show the diety of Yeshua in different ways! Thanks hope i will learn alot in this websiteBut i want to ask who translated The Amplified bible version? Although the Diatesseron had some Textus Receptus readings in it, it was considered to be corrupted. BeDuhn points out that the general public and many Bible scholars assume that the differences in the New World Translation (NW) are due to religious bias on the part of its translators. Nothing could be more errant than to write Catholics hate the Bible. Thanks in advance. That is the question you must ask and answer for yourself honestly and carefully. And presto, what do we have today? In Jesus Name. Sinaiticus is one of . Hope this is helpful to prevent some misunderstandings. I will always prefer the KJV with all its faults. There is nothing when and how Mary Magdalena saw the Risen Christ, indicating, of course, it never happened. Versions of the bible that are forever under scrutiny?. These discarded old manuscripts that were full of scribal errors and as result were never circulated by the church. Describes her perfectly. Memorization and oral transmission was the primary means of education in first century Judea and Galilee among the Jews. Ever think possibly he had more than ONE resource ??? Unlike the KJV. Now, I said all that to simply say this - There is a very noticeable and contradictory statement found in Acts 19:16. Ive known for a long time these differences existed, I just have never been able to figure out how these differences came to be. This cannot be an unblemished codex. This is the cause of the surprise of the British Library staff, who are acknowledged world class experts in handling such manuscripts. The problem here is would you rather have translations from the 10th centurey or the 4th century (as they became available) which are more removed from Catholic theological bias. Being in the ultimate best group (your current religion is the correct one of course) is a very powerful aphrodisiac. And for those who have sinned I was This modified version from 1885 has the name "Revised Version". The textus receptus was essentially a slogan used by the distributors of the KJV after it was error corrected and reprinted on the printing press. Unfortunately, the comments section that follow the article remind us that anti-Catholic bigotry and the ignorance from which it springs is still present in the minds and hearts of fundamentalist Christians. What is so important about the KJV being a translation from the Textus Receptus (received text)??? If we speak of provenance in an art museum, we know where the picture has been since it was painted by the artist. Im aware of no historical evidence that anything was erased and replaced. But also the TaNaKh which gives the OT a different structure to consider, especially when you talk about prophets. Space does not allow me point out the mutilation of Codex Vaticanus (B). There is growing forensic evidence that the Codex Sinaiticus is a 19th century forgery, sponsored by the Catholic Church, in order to undermine the Protestant Bible. Little doubts often repeated become entrenched in the mind and eventually produce either a serious warning, or a platform for lies. In his article Hero or Thief? Subversion is often of a greater danger than frontal attack. Just like the serpent was doing the devils dirty work in the Garden of Eden where God walked and talked with our first parents, (and conquered for a time), so too the devil has had his agents working to subvert and pervert Scripturelittle by little, line by line, here a little there a little over many centuries. These people were put to death holding on this witness, and what would they gain from it? Every true child of GOD knows it and cannot live without it. now thus they spoke to Christ. i have an 1560 geneva bible and 1611 an an 1678 an 1769.. 1829..1841 and also use other revived text bibles. omits verses with a multitude of documented quotes by the earliest Pre-Nicene Christians including converts of the Apostles Paul, Peter, and John; all of whom certainly has autograph versions of the New Testament books. you dont have to be a christian or a jew to be a good translator. There are likely missing portions on the Codex because they added to the current texts in order to push their dogma and make it more palatable to those they wished to convert. On actually checking the Greek text, however, I found that what was numbered 13 in the CS was the verse we know as 14. In the end I wonder,was this truly a omission,or could there be illness,war,fire or any other disasters?? Would appreciate knowing what is considered to be the oldest versions of the OT and NT. But the rest of scripture gives this doxology in many other areas. So I suppose by repeating only one of Boltons amateurish mistakes, BAR is making progress. Are you afraid readers will get a conclusion contrary to your publishing bias? I believe GOD has preserved his word as he said he would . Now do this over 5 days for 1 to 3 hours a day and see how much you remember, at the end from the first, second etc days tslks. Scholars in favor of the critical text of the bible, view the Codex Sinaiticus to be one of the greatest Greek texts of the New Testament and the codex is a celebrated historical treasure by many modern scholars, along with that of the Codex Vaticanus. Until you have a personal experience of being filled with the Holy Spirit, you cannot see the truth. Let us fear God and love Him and treat His word with more respect. i say that all things will be made clear when Jesus comes back pretty soon. I prefer to accept the word of God by faith, the same way we attain salvation. They play both sides sometimes it is original and sometimes not. The real question you must come to grips with is whether Jesus is God incarnate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukRCVDmiAts. Such a production line was slow and laborious and costly. The person who wrote this is obviously undereducated read Mark 16:6!!! Pilate was used to trouble makers in Judea and he saw and heard a lot of phony messiahs, and many of those were armed to the teeth to try and get rid of Romes power base in Judea. The story of John 7 is missing in the Codex S. But in other manuscripts it appears. there is evidence of textual tampering, attempts at artificially aging the manuscript, and alleged bookworm tracks that start in the middle of the page. I bless you in the Name of the Father, the SON and the HOLY Spirit. And no, Steve, the are thousands and thousands positives and no negatives at all. Much modern textual scholarship will be undermined and further investigations into the motives of the people involved will be needed. Ive now forgotten where and cannot find it. These all have been traced (by liberal and conservative scholars alike) to a probable source in Alexandria, Egypt, in the 2nd or 3rd century. Same guy that established the doctrine of the Trinity, btw. are very corrupt in nature such as Sinaiticus, Vaticanus, Alexandrinus (A 02), Bezae Canatbrigiensis (D 05). Take a look at these two English translations. Neither the original hand nor any corrector afterward in Codex Sinaiticus has the wording that Jesus was angry in Mark 1:41. In other words what we have today is an incomplete Bible. And how about the epistle of Barnabas and the Shepherd of Hermas? The Codex Sinaiticus is serving today as the basis for almost all modern Bible translations since the beginning . However, it is not . God Bless you all with light to Truth. How is it that these ancient manuscripts lay forgotten (Siniaticus) or ignored (Vaticanus) for 1500 years or more? Besides, thats what he tells us to do, ask. Go read the 18th chapter. Thanks, BAR, for discussing it as it relates to Sinaiticus onlyl. Codex Vaticanus, gathering dust in the Vatican library since the 1500s and Codex Sinaiticus, rescued from a trash can in St. Catherines monasteryused by Westcott and Hort to rewrite the KJV. Give us this day our daily bread. Not in Gods economy. Recently found my way back to God, after researching for many, many years other types of religions/beleifs. The King James Version is taken from the Textus Receptus while the American Standard Version is taken from the Critical Text. .September 25 .2015) But the fact remains I do not have a million dollars. The sound foundation built by seeking knowledge and wisdom come from meditating on the word day and night and then is still a spiritual revelation of the truth of God. I went to a lecture give by Dr Cooper on this subject, and his evidence and the surprised response of the British Library staff at the youthful condition of the manuscripts, was very compelling. Who has made all the ends of the earth to rise? Theres accountability to the record. Of course I dont want to seem to imply that such inability to feel empathy is limited to Christians, Far from it. However, the two authoritative fourth-century Greek manuscriptsCodex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanusboth end with Mark 16:8. The simple reason for the disappearance of most manuscripts and why there are so many small fragments containing excerpts around is that they simply wore out! (This calculation is made, remember, using the NA27 . no more in order to inherit the spiritual and incorruptible glory of Making a case against Christianity based on the integrity of Scriptural reliability is a losing battle. Following is the story of how Tischendorf found the Codex Sinaiticus: I think Id remember if I saw someone die, then rise to life, walk into my room and had lunch with me. So I have only recently come across the codex sinaiticus, which has led me here, and Its been enlightening to read all of these comments and opinions, from all of you quite educated and well versed people. I do have several annotated scriptures myself and they are from several different groups or editors A favorite is the New Jerusalem Bible, if for no other reason, it includes the deutero-canonical books of the OT such as Maccabees and Ecclesiasticus. But understand that back then they probably did not quote scripture in that numerical manner: And they excused themselves, saying, This age of lawlessness However, in 1881 scholars Westcott and Hort published a new Greek New Testament text that included the findings of Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus. Tyndale? Dig into the illuminating world of the Bible with a BAS All-Access membership. the Majority Texts (Textus Receptus), and . But it seems quite okay and acceptable if we put our own spin on Gods word. There can be only one truth among multiple truth claims. Disinformation is a great tool for controlling our minds! Finally, I have one suggestion, as I close. There were several English translations published long before the KJV; to wit, Coverdale bible (1535), Matthews bible, (1537) The Great bible, (1539) Geneva Bible, (1560) Bishops Bible, (1568), et al. Also there are several copies of the book of Matthew written in Hebrew. (re Luke. This is also the text that agrees with more than 95% of the Bible Manuscripts in Koine (common) Greek. In discussion of this codex it is discribed as perhaps the third oldest, but probably has better provenance than the other two. Codex Sinaiticus was made in the 4th century on parchment using capital letters (a manuscript in all capitals is called an "uncial"). That is, assuming they existed.. They knew this. The Codex Sinaiticus Project is an international collaboration to reunite the entire manuscript in digital form and make it accessible to a global audience for the first time. And why do we humans who take such pride in our organizational and community identities save in one kind of organization or community seem to save their harshest rebukes for each other for that matter, in this case Protestants against Catholics and vice versa? All ready for the next generation of innocent and naive seekers for truth. A salvaged page of the Codex Sinaiticus from St. Catherines Monastery recovered in 1975. The Textus Receptus is the text which the King James translators used. Textus Receptus Bible chapters shown in parallel with your selection of Bibles. Posted on . Constantine Tischendorf was a false teacher, like one of the ones Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Messiah, warned about. In it we are given this assurance: The green grass dries up, the blossom withers, but the word of our God endures forever. (Isaiah 40:8; 1 Peter 1:25) The version known as the Peshitta plays a humble but important role in the accurate transmission of the Bibles message to all of humanity A piece here and a piece there but no even close to a complete speach. This is just not possible, for there is no mention of the catastrophe in Rome when these apostles and most of the other Christians were cruelly massacred late in Neros reign. After all this education I have decided to always demand the KJV Only. . 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